Living Covenant

Saul had everything going for him. He was chosen by God, anointed as king and was head and shoulders above everyone around him. But his story did not end well.

In this episode, therapist and former pastor Blake Penland joins us to unpack the life of Saul and what his slow unravelling reveals about leadership, accountability and the stories we tell ourselves. We talk about the difference between guilt and shame and why it matters, what it looks like to be intentional with God rather than just passive, and why God's patience with Saul outlasted Saul's patience with himself. Blake also opens up about the mental health tools he's found most useful, including music and creativity.

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